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FAKE GOTHS


   You see children, these horrible little beings reproduce at an incredible rate, fueled by a mixture of Hot Topic and Marilyn Manson. If they are not stopped the gothic subculture and music itself will be forgotten. It is already taking a beating by everyone who mocks it out of ignorance. They make fun of it because they have never known what true goth is and their perceptions are blurred by what these little 'I-hate-the-world-because-mommy-doesn't-love-me-enough' teenagers are portraying. They will no longer be allowed to use this label.

   You'll notice I simply refer to goth as 'it' and don't list specific examples. Before you attempt to spam me and complain (you can, but I assure you it won't spoil my night) I will say now that I do this to protect what this wiki stands for: REVEALING THE FALSE. Now, if I were to give them a hint or ground for their claims that would ruin this whole self-righteousness I have filled myself with.



NOTICE:
Well, well, [Nymphette]. It's nice to know that your copy and paste skills aren't lacking.
When asked what goth was, as she claims she is in her profile (and all those that say they are goth, upon joining must explain what it is), she gave me a beautiful little explanation. I thought something was wrong with it though, as can be seen below in the wiki page containing it. I did a search to find out if my suspicions were correct, and they were.

http://www.ice-princess.net/gothwhat.html
Look familiar, Nymphette?
For being a cunt, you have been removed. I don't want whining either. You fucked up, not me.
Liar FG


Banners are up. Stick one in your house and show your support, douche and/or join the member list.
Fake Goth Banners
FG Members


And speaking of this:
The following fake goths need to remove our banner. You won't avoid ridicule by pretending to be a member. In fact, you'll be ridiculed even more.

[Stormy101]
[GeshemYehod]
[samantha louise!]


Originally this was a dear little list of Elftown members who are 'Fake Goths'. Now, as this appears to have become a problem with the number of reports sent to the guards, the list has been deleted and this will now serve as a forum to discuss this ongoing problem. Apparently people don't appreciate having their accounts violated. Ah, well. Either way, this wiki will continue as before, just without the list.

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ATTENTION:

Temporary notice!
As [cuntstitches] is no longer able to devote her time to tending to her dear wiki, I [Lost in Illusions] have volunteered to take over for the time being.
That's right.
I'm the new master.
Bow down, bitches.
=3

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2005-03-27 [Lost in Illusions]: wait.... Im confused.. what does a group of record labels, Im assuming, have to do with not or being a 'true goth'?

2005-03-27 [Goldice]: ok a month ago it wasn't record labels. sorry

2005-03-27 [Lost in Illusions]: quite alright... I figured that there was some explanation as to why you sent it.

2005-03-27 [Goldice]: forgot that it needed the extra bit

2005-03-27 [cuntstitches]: Jino, I read what it was about and wanted to vomit.

2005-03-27 [cuntstitches]: And, Mighty_Angel, where did you find that idiot? I hate people that shave their eyebrows and don't draw them back on. Eck.

2005-03-27 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Why did you dislike the wiki?  Apart from the pictures and categories?

2005-03-27 [Spanakopida]: If that article thing is satire, it is very, very funny. If it is not, it is even more funny. (:

2005-03-27 [Avoral]: *LMFAO* I love it. Now I know even further how to locate my targets. I just have to lock onto the cast-iron cauldrons.

2005-03-28 [Spanakopida]: Hee hee, the ankh bit really gets me (:

2005-03-28 [Lost in Illusions]: oh, yes... that is a satirical joke... so so funny... of course, the funnier thing is that people actually believe that their "goth" children are "goth" because they do those exact things... especially the "bi" thing... I dont get that... what does enjoying the company of the same gender have to do with being "evil"?? o.O

2005-03-28 [Spanakopida]: I dance to music, and it is very evil.

2005-03-28 [Lost in Illusions]: wow... I wear black... it's slimming..... and EEEEVIL

2005-03-28 [Spanakopida]: No, really. My dancing is evil. It is really that bad.

2005-03-28 [Lost in Illusions]: ahahahahahahahahaa! Funny. Well, I wear blood.... yes, I do. Dragon's blood, but not like anyone else knows it's just incense

2005-03-28 [Spanakopida]: Don't you burn incense?

2005-03-28 [Lost in Illusions]: not in liquid form.. o.o hehe.

2005-03-28 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: I listen to twisted music, wear black and sometimes wear black makeup. Am I evil because of that? HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

2005-03-28 [Goldice]: hey i have a cauldron. the site was just sp pathetic.did you read the whole thing?

2005-03-28 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: ::says "I'm a goth" and afterthat laughs his ass off::

2005-03-28 [Goldice]: well i came under i think 19 points so i guess in their eyes that qualifies me

2005-03-28 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: ::begins counting how many points HE came under::

2005-03-28 [Goldice]: uh huh

2005-03-28 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: I fall under 22-23 points. ^_^ ::sticks out tongue in a playfully-joking manner:: I'm GOTH. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

2005-03-28 [Goldice]: lol

2005-03-28 [Goldice]: its stupid though. did you read the other pages like the statement about elton john?

2005-03-28 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: I couldn't read ALL of them, but it seems silly. Laughable even.

2005-03-28 [Goldice]: yeah i know. the email address to send them abuse by, however, doesn't work.

2005-03-28 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Shit. I was just going to write:"Someone send them an essay and make a link to a goth site!!!!!"

2005-03-28 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: ::reads it again:: ::laughs hysterically:: All hail ELtON JOHN!!! The true king of GOTH!!!!!

2005-03-28 [Goldice]: i know.

2005-03-28 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: ^_^ Tell me those guys at P.A.R.O.D.Y. DON'T take themselves seriously!

2005-03-28 [Goldice]: they do. they want to wage a holy war wtf?

2005-03-28 [drakkar]: O.o...i missed something didnt i?

2005-03-28 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Yes, you did. you missed a million laughs and more.

2005-03-28 [Goldice]: uh huh. at others expense

2005-03-28 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Well... This manifestation should be sent to the guys at Common Sense.

2005-03-28 [Goldice]: ??

2005-03-28 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Well... the things the folks at P.A.R.O.D.Y. have written LACK that. And the wiki is a proper place to show their shame.

2005-03-28 [Goldice]: oh i see sorry

2005-03-28 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: It's ok. We see no reason for you to be sorry.

2005-03-28 [Spanakopida]: I think it is silly that you guys are taking this so seriously.

2005-03-28 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: We are not taking it seriously. [Goldice] seems to be. We look at it as at a parody. we find the name of the organization fitting.          ((to thos who read - sorry wor writing "WE" instead of "I". I have reasons, that need not be explained. But we're on the verge of a nervous breakdown))

2005-03-28 [Spanakopida]: It seems to me like you are taking it seriously, but maybe i am not as good at interpreting things over the internet.

2005-03-28 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Whatever. Does it make the whole thing less laughable? We mean... According to this, we're GOTH. And although others think so too, we don't think of ourself as GOTH. Besides- it's full of the sillyest things. If it were an actual organization, we would be the first one to call them on the phone and laugh their heads off.

2005-03-29 [samantha louise!]: hey..i woz gonna join this wiki but i need 2 no 1 thing...r u sayin marilyn manson is a fake goth? if not am sorry i must of been confused

2005-03-29 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Hm... Hwo ever said MArilyn Manson was GOTH? Has he? He doesn't make goth music. He makes modern industrial/techno metall. Goth metal rarely uses techno beats. It usually uses classical instruments like violins, chellos, organs... His style of appearance is GOTH though. But so is Jonathan Davis's. And KoRn are NOT a goth band you know. although many "GOTHS" worship them.

2005-03-29 [Goldice]: im not taking it seriously. i just find small minded people funny

2005-03-29 [Spanakopida]: Hee hee, I find it funny that the lead singer of Korn left because he converted to christianity. That must be a blow to their fans.

2005-03-29 [Leara]: Thats a stupid reason to leave a band, and quite frankly it doesn't make sense.

2005-03-29 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Wait a minute... Jon Davis left? I heard it was Head, the guitar player who left.

2005-03-29 [Lost in Illusions]: Ive no clue.. but I did notice the music has become... fluffier lately.

2005-03-29 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: fluffier? ??? What the hell are you talking about?

2005-03-29 [Spanakopida]: It was the guitarist, I think, I had it wrong. Well, stil, it was someone signifigant.

2005-03-29 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Everyone in a band is significant. But they told me it was Head, the guitarist. He's going to a temple somewhere, to make church music. Sounds silly, eh?

2005-03-29 [Spanakopida]: I just think it's so funny

2005-03-29 [Avoral]: Me too, [Spanakopida]. I relished hearing it almost as much as hearing that Abercrombie bought out Hot Topic.

2005-03-29 [Avoral]: Almost. *Still recalls going into that store, pointing at each individual Goth-child, and being like "..and Abercrombie owns you, and Abercrombie owns you, and Abercrombie owns you..."*

2005-03-29 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: What's Abercrombie and what did it buy?

2005-03-29 [Spanakopida]: I thought that Gap owned both of those stores?

2005-03-29 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Wait... So... That's stores? For clothes?

2005-03-29 [Avoral]: Yes. Whiny Goth-children (at least the trendy ones) tend to hover around Hot Topic, a store for all things Goth. And then one of the bigger "prep" clothing stories, Abercrombie & Fitch, bought out Hot Topic, making Hot Topic an Abercrombie subsidiary, a subservient lackey to everything it ideally hates.

2005-03-29 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: So... GOTHS hated Abercrombie, but it bought their store. WHY, OH WHY WAS I NOT THERE to watch you tell those goths those words... And to buy some clothes...

2005-03-29 [Spanakopida]: You would not want to buy anything there, it's all expensive and made in sweatshops.

2005-03-29 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Darn. And I was hoping to finally have found a shop for nice goth clothes. Or at least nice black ones.

2005-03-29 [Lost in Illusions]: this is why I am trying to design all my clothes and make everything I weak... or at least want to. hehe.

2005-03-29 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Well... I can design them, and I could probably sow ((I hate this verb. how was it written again?)) them. Hm... But I haven't the time and materials.

2005-03-29 [Lost in Illusions]: it's spelled "sew" and I know what you mean... I could sew them, but my drawing skills suck, and like you, I havent the time nor money for materials

2005-03-29 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Well... My drawing skills are improving, but if I were to make them by myself, I wouldn't need drawing skills- just the idea and some measurements. and the rest is given form to. You don't need to be able to draw to design your clothes. You need it to design clothes for others.

2005-03-29 [Lost in Illusions]: I know that... If I had a manequinn designed to my bodyshape, I could design and sew up the clothes how I want.... I have all my designs in my head.

2005-03-29 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: You don't need a manequinn. you have yourself. All you do is measure and sew. How hard can that be?

2005-03-29 [Lost in Illusions]: ~nods~ Still dunno... sides, no money for materials, anyway....

2005-03-29 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Well... I dunno. how much is a meter of jeans where you are?

2005-03-29 [Lost in Illusions]: I have no clue... it's measured by yards, here. but I still dont know... i know it'd be a lot cheaper than it is in stores, already made.

2005-03-29 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Yep. It would be cheaper. Go check it out some day. you might just have enough for a new wardrobe. ^_^

2005-03-29 [Lost in Illusions]: hehe... that would be great. All I need is to design and measure and sew.... after I check out the price on jean material

2005-03-29 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Or on the material of your choice.       TO ALL WHO VISIT THIS WIKI: Have you seen another wiki: :p? I know it looks silly here, but go read it. It's almost laughable... And an almost sure reason to cry.

2005-03-29 [Blackshire]: Woot!

2005-03-29 [Lost in Illusions]: it's very funny...

2005-03-29 [Blackshire]: I like it very much. You should write more things like that.

2005-03-30 [Grey Eyes]: ...Sewing is actually very hard >.>  <.< Yeah, I buy certain brands from Hottopic, because y'know, it's there, and I'm not going to stop shopping there just cause' it's owned by the slut store...my other clothes I buy at JC Penny's or Second hand stores. =/

2005-03-30 [Lost in Illusions]: true... I like Tripp, and Lip Service, and HT is the only place I can find it, so yeah....

2005-03-30 [Grey Eyes]: Yeah, it's alot more expensive on the internet, so I just buy it from Hottopic, they also have their own name brand which has some good things. I like the Emily cat stuff ^.^

2005-03-31 [cuntstitches]: ..Why not go to the Tripp and/or Lip Service websites? Hot Topic has poor quality clothing.

2005-03-31 [Avoral]: Ah, JC Penney. Now THAT'S a clothing store. That's where I go when I want something nice and premade. That and Wal-Mart. Hot Topic can slob my knob; they just opened one up in the closest mall, and I was dragged into their by my fiance and her friend. It was sickening. I had to go to the nearby Aeropostale store and "shower off" the angst. They thought it was odd that I was rubbing their clothes on every inch of exposed skin, but I got my job done.

2005-03-31 [Lost in Illusions]: I hate WalMart and Penney.... eew... I hate Hot Topic, as well, but I love Lip Service and Tripp, so that's why I go there, just perchance that they have it... I hate Aeropostale, as well. I go to Gap, Express, and HT, but only on the occassion that I actually have money for clothes

2005-03-31 [Spanakopida]: Avoral, I literally laughed out loud.

2005-03-31 [Lost in Illusions]: I laughed, as well, but I still hate Aeropostale!

2005-03-31 [Keii]: We have a great little place over here. Nice, small and local ^-^

2005-03-31 [Lost in Illusions]: what do ya mean? Aeropostale? I like small individually owned clothing shops with unique designs and such

2005-03-31 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: I like those too.

2005-03-31 [Lost in Illusions]: Thriftshopping is fun, but it's hard finding something I like there.

2005-03-31 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Hm... the best place to find things you like is at a place where they sell old-fashioned clothing and metall/"goth" clothing and accessories.

2005-03-31 [Lost in Illusions]: they dont have any of that, here... I just look where I can and buy what I like.

2005-03-31 [Spanakopida]: I like finding fun tshirts online. Some of them are terribly emo, though. I don't mind much, they look nice.

2005-03-31 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: I'm emo in the moment BTW, so if I say STH stupid- sorry. I had a hard day.

2005-03-31 [Lost in Illusions]: Im.... um.. feeling kinda Mad Hatter-ish at the moment. Im dressed up with like three different layers with a nice black blazer... all that's missing is a tophat

2005-03-31 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: ::shrugs:: I'm dressed in black jeans, a black polo and a red shirt. With a bracelet with pyramids on one hand and a pracelet with my name in spheres on the other, and two silver rings. How am I supposed to feel?

2005-03-31 [Lost in Illusions]: the only jewelery I got on is a rose petal rosary crucifix

2005-03-31 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Nice. I also have a jewel on my neck I forgot to mention. It's what the priests of god Tangra used to wear. Tangra is a Protobulgarian god (one of the oldest religions).   |Y|

2005-03-31 [cuntstitches]: Mm. I love crucifixes. I have a collection of jewelry composed wholly of them.

2005-03-31 [Keii]: [Lost in Illusions] - No, I've never heard of Aeropostale. The shop we have here is Kathmandu - although I do admit it went downhill in the last few years, and got rid of some great stuff... but they're slowly bringing it back. Though my favourite place to shop is www.goodorient.com ^-^

2005-03-31 [Lost in Illusions]: I only care for a few crucifixes. I want one from gothicrosary.com.. yes, the name is a little "stereotypical" but at the same time, they have some nice stuff.

2005-04-02 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: The best jewlers are at Alchemy. Noone can convince me otherwise.

2005-04-02 [Lost in Illusions]: I dont know... I havnet been there, so I cant debate.

2005-04-02 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Look up Alchemy Gothic. It's a British company with more than 200 years history. They started out by making knight armor and then went on. They have some marvelous stuff. And their products are usually hand made. And not too expensive either. I believe they have a site, but I don't remember it right now.

2005-04-02 [Lost in Illusions]: Awesome. I love the whole midieval gothic designs. At age 15, it was all I could think about... I would go online and do nothing but find designs for the Middle Ages weapons, housing, clothing... I was pretty obssessed for a while... but, I digress. My point, I love the old ages and their clothing, jewelry, weaponry, etc.

2005-04-02 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: I do to. But I didn't go 'round searching for designs. I started drawing the weapons I wanted to see. I have well over a hundred weapons drawn... I draw when I'm bored at school, and it usually ends up a weapon. ::shrugs:: Someday I'll probably open my own chain of weaponshops.

2005-04-02 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: ::dreams::

2005-04-02 [Lost in Illusions]: well, I designed my own weapons, but I love to look at them.

2005-04-02 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Yep. I love looking ate weapons. But holding them is even more fun.

2005-04-02 [Lost in Illusions]: Ive only held a few of them, myself... I would love to own a katana... one that was formed just for me.

2005-04-02 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Well... I own quite a few knives, a knife with a hilt as long as my arm(my own creation) and an old Bulgarian sword (I keep forgetting the English name of the type of sword I own).

2005-04-02 [Lost in Illusions]: very nice... such a long hilt would allow for much leverage! I would love to hold a knife like that... one of my creations is a double-double-edged sword... it's more like four swords, but they're all attached to one hilt.. I'll have to redraw and scan it so I can show you what I mean

2005-04-02 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Do you per chance mean it's like two double-edged swords connected perpendicularly to oneanother through their center vertical?

2005-04-02 [Lost in Illusions]: pretty much.

2005-04-03 [cuntstitches]: [__MasqeRade__] Scroll down to her 'beliefs'.

2005-04-03 [Delladreing]: one is of the impression she is talking out her arse or atleast got very confused when writing that

2005-04-03 [Avoral]: Yeah, seriously.

2005-04-03 [Avoral]: She should've ended that with "I don't know WHAT I believe."

2005-04-03 [Delladreing]: followed by "I thought I'd make a big profound statement for people to read by putting this in my bio, but I've just made myself look like a big pillock"

2005-04-03 [Avoral]: Oh yes, definitely a must for her.

2005-04-03 [Delladreing]: shame i dont have the same privs over here like i do on ep, would have been funny to add it onfor her ;)

2005-04-03 [Avoral]: Hehehehehehehehehehe

2005-04-03 [Avoral]: Hey, you should give me a big-arse guard notice on my house on EP. And somewhere in it it has to say "and he believes that there is only one right way to eat a Reese's." Also, somewhere in there has to be something about my saliva being laced with powerful psychogenics that make me able to spit insanity on people. And somewhere in there has to be a giant robot. Maybe just a picture of one, but I want a giant robot. *Stops himself before he writes a novel regarding his request*

2005-04-03 [Delladreing]: O_o lol that all Avy? hehe ill put something up when my privs are backto normal. some idiot decided to change them to 101 for me >.> i only just got my council ones back...ooh i could get the Asrun to give you a warning :D

2005-04-03 [SkyLynn07]: I was just reading the whole little thing on fake goths.. has anyone messaged them telling them to remove the banner from their house? Just a small suggestion if not. [XxBeautiful DisgracexX], [Cake poo], [Brokn To Perfektion], [Perplex] & [44. Caliber Love Letter]-All of these people took the badge they had up off their house..

2005-04-03 [Avoral]: Hehehe... The [Asrun] is the one I just recently tried to sell smuggled Giffie-pets to in exchange for her parents' credit card information. Not sure if that'll go over too well. Hehe.

2005-04-03 [Delladreing]: lol uhm *wonders who else she is friends with on the Guard* lol she might do it for me :D i do employ her afterall on the EPI

2005-04-03 [Spanakopida]: Avoral, you will make all the other people with guard notices jealous. And the people without them. Like me.

2005-04-03 [Delladreing]: lol i still dont have one, i want one that states that "Elfpack is not responsable for the actions of this member, any loss of limb, sight or life is purely your own fault should you choose to harass this member. You have been warned" lol

2005-04-03 [Spanakopida]: I went to elfpack once...

2005-04-03 [Delladreing]: not like it much?

2005-04-03 [Spanakopida]: Not really, no.

2005-04-03 [Avoral]: Me either.

2005-04-03 [Delladreing]: meh lol i only like it because i get to do fun jobs on the EPI, like writing the comic strip scripts, ive yet to do the one where theres a secret message in it....although that one will be dunny if someone spots it lol

2005-04-03 [Avoral]: Hehe... I need to get started on my ET tabloids. You know, where I accuse [HiddenFire] of being an insane terrorist bent on destroying Elftown and/or America and/or the free world and/or the universe.

2005-04-03 [Delladreing]: that should be fun :)

2005-04-03 [Spanakopida]: Do I get to be in your tabloids?

2005-04-03 [Avoral]: Sure!

2005-04-03 [Spanakopida]: yay!

2005-04-03 [Avoral]: What do you want me to put you up there for?

2005-04-03 [Spanakopida]: I don't know D:

2005-04-03 [Goldice]: can i use a banner just cos i like it?

2005-04-03 [Delladreing]: O_o

2005-04-03 [Spanakopida]: No. That defeats the point of banners.

2005-04-03 [Goldice]: sorry my bad

2005-04-05 [cuntstitches]: [SkyLynn07], they were messaged and given a day to respond. When they did not, they were placed on the list. It is not my responsibility to check up on them for the banner. If they would like to be removed it is their task to inform me the banner has been removed. Those listed by you will be taken down now though.

2005-04-06 [bloodsex and blasphemy]: Can i use the banner? i may not dress gothic, but i do truly love the culture, and dislike those who make a mockery of it.

2005-04-06 [Simply Real]: I support this movment to rid elftown and the world of fakes, as I was on a mission alone to do this, with support thoughg it will be easier.

2005-04-06 [Keii]: Clowns scare me...

2005-04-06 [Delladreing]: *hides behind Kei* they scare me too....*looks around to make sure there arent any*

2005-04-06 [Keii]: *nods* Hey... wait a moment... why do I have to be at the front? Your the scary one... *hides behind Dela*

2005-04-06 [Simply Real]: Where are these frightening clowns!? *huddles in the corner* In a sence fake goths are like clown. *smirks*

2005-04-06 [Delladreing]: yes but but...im smaller lol!

2005-04-06 [Keii]: *points to [bloodsex and blasphemy]'s house* No not really... clowns are scary, fake goths aren't

2005-04-06 [Delladreing]: lol fake goths are annoying and highyl amusing to toremnt...clowns just scare the crap put of me lol

2005-04-06 [Simply Real]: ...they do cause me to laugh... and at great lengths.

2005-04-06 [Simply Real]: Real clowns i find retarted, BUT clown DOLLS terrify me.

2005-04-06 [Keii]: *chuckles* You calling me fat? XD Yes, fake goths... highly amusing ^-^

2005-04-06 [Keii]: *mutters* Damn internet... so slow >.<

2005-04-06 [Delladreing]: porcalein (sp) dolls....oh god *cowers*

2005-04-06 [Simply Real]: those would be the ones! Often found in old peoples homes... odd individuals who collect terrifying looking dolls.

2005-04-06 [Keii]: Yeah, they are damn scary... but saying that, I still have a living dead doll that I friend got me for christmas years ago, that I like o.O Though she does scare the shit outta me XD

2005-04-06 [Delladreing]: i have one...god knows why i got given it. i hid it in the attic...sometimes things move in there...im too scared to look lol

2005-04-06 [Simply Real]: So am i lead to beleive everyone here is of "real" gothic nature? Or at least has some interest in the "real" sub-culture?

2005-04-06 [Keii]: Lol - mine was wrapped up in socks and shoved in the cupboard for months. Not too sure about that one Morose... *looks at you* You scare me too O.O

2005-04-06 [Delladreing]: i am by no means gothic, but i fully support anti fakenes...which is why i started Playgans which is more often than not related to fake goths anyway as the majority of playgans think wearing black and a lot of eyeliner makes the "gofic" and capable of weilding great powers.....its really quite worrying how some people think O_o

2005-04-06 [Simply Real]: It is indeed. I am not at all scary, and i mean to change those misleading pics as i am very friendly. Was merely representing that side of me.

2005-04-06 [Delladreing]: lol *looks at her own pics* mine are quite misleading...they dont portray me as being as evil and scary i really am...

2005-04-06 [Keii]: I'm not sure about what/who I am... I change like the wind. One day I'm dressed in Asian style clothing, next its corests, or brightly coloured hessin stuff... whatever is clean I guess ^-^ *nods* Heh, scary pics are good for scaring off people that you don't want to talk to though...

2005-04-06 [Delladreing]: *nods* although the misleading pics can be handy, more often than not people think they are getting to talk to some nice dim little blonde...then she bites back lol they run a mile *grins madly showing her teeth*

2005-04-06 [Keii]: XD See thats a good thing... you have more people to torment when they come straight into your trap

2005-04-06 [Simply Real]: *smirks* Indeed. Im updating a photo now...

2005-04-07 [cuntstitches]: P.S. kiddos. More added to the Liar FG page, or just go straight to Liar2 FG.

2005-04-07 [Blackshire]: I love that. She's a real moron.

2005-04-07 [cuntstitches]: Yeah. It would be sad that she thinks she's correct if it wasn't so funny.

2005-04-07 [Simply Real]: ...All very amusing.

2005-04-07 [YourAdHere]: "For being a cunt, you have been removed. I don't want whining either. You fucked up, not me." WOOT! she called her a cunt!

2005-04-07 [Nymphette]: hmmn and cunts a clever word isnt it. thanks morose, your supposed to be my mate. i am not a fake goth. the funny thing is, this is not a wiki for lists of goths, this is a wiki about fake goths and who hates them. that is why i joined. also, just because i copied it, it doesnt mean i didnt agree with it. i agreed with all that stuff before i ever read it. to be blunt, and its impossible to sound like im not whining here, you have slandered me and i object. just because i copied and pasted it doesnt make me a posuer. I was short on time anyway, i thought, at the time, that as there was no point me writing down what i thought already all over then i should just use a template

2005-04-07 [Nymphette]: sent to me by morose, and edit it to my preference. i agreed with it all anyway, So I don’t see what the problem is. You asked me what i thought goth was. I told you. Just in someone elses words. I i do not see how that makes me a fake goth and a liar. and cuntstitches, how was i supposed to give you somthing like that without passing it off as my own? you would have just labeled me as a poseur from the start. *thinks* guess i was a bit silly. Now i know this sounds like im sucking up, but ive apologised. Im sorry. I should be whipped and raped by mad goats or something. Im sure whoever wrote the essay in the first place would be exceedingly pissed off with me.

2005-04-07 [Nymphette]: But you are labelling me the wrong things. Label me as a copier, label me as a 'word theif'. But what i did does not class me as a poseur or a fake. It makes no sense. Im trying to be as reasonable as i can. But what else can i do? Im offended and i feel misunderstood. Slander me all you want for what i did, remove me from your member lists, but DO NOT do it for the reasons you have stated. As sad as it sounds, its unfair and you have given me a bad reputation on elftown. Id rather i didnt have that reputation. If you want, ill write out a description in my own words. Whatever. I just dont understand how youve put what you have concerning what i did.

2005-04-07 [Keii]: Try to think about it from another point of view darling. This wiki is against fakes, yet they still try to join and claim that they aren't fakes/poseurs etc etc. It's perfectly easy for anyone - whether your fake or not - to find something like that and cut and paste. You were short on time? Then why not wait a little longer to reply in your own words? It doesn't matter if you agree with that description, it's still not your own thoughts, it's someone elses. It's lazy, and something that fakes would find very easy to do.

2005-04-07 [Goldice]: and would try their hardest to argue why the did it

2005-04-07 [Nymphette]: so true. and yet that it something that i now face. what can i do? ive ruined my repuation and have been branded. i should have realised that as i did it, shouldnt i?

2005-04-07 [Goldice]: try writing it in your own words and see if you can gain some trust back?

2005-04-07 [Keii]: Guess so. But then, this is only the internet... why care so much about what people you have never met, think?

2005-04-07 [Goldice]: i guess so but then people on here are more likelt to talk to her

2005-04-07 [Nymphette]: i guess i shouldnt really care. but im that kind of person. i care so much. i also dont think i would get a second chance if i rewrote it. what do you think?

2005-04-07 [Goldice]: not sure. like you peoples opinions mean alot to me as im really self concious. so upto you really

2005-04-07 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: I believe that there is a chance for you, [Nymphette], if you rewrite it and explain your ideas properly. I mean... If you're not a fake- you should find it easy to prove it.

2005-04-07 [Nymphette]: true true. but, the problem lies with the owner. she might not want me on. i may have offended her, or something, i never intended that. ill ask her. if if she says no, ill write it anyway. if i cant change her mind back maybe i can reright myself in your eyes. what do you think?

2005-04-07 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: I believe that, if you perswade the members of the wiki, some who are closer to the owner can put up a good word for you. Alas, I haven't talked to her much, so I'm not going to be of much help.

2005-04-07 [Nymphette]: true. well, im off for my tea now. speak in a bit

2005-04-07 [Keii]: *nods* I agree with Jino... write your own personal ideas, and then maybe join in with conversations on here... you never know...

2005-04-07 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Thanx for the support, [Keii]! ::bows::

2005-04-07 [Keii]: Your welcome ^-^

2005-04-07 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: ::smiles and lights a cigarette:: So anyways. How's everything going? did I miss anything these... ::thinks back:: two days I was gone?

2005-04-07 [Keii]: I'm not sure, haven't been around much myself... or have I? *thinks* I can't remember...

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